Someone told me that they do that at cypress college...and I really want to become a hygenist but I couldnt even get trough disecting a frog in bio.
I'm interested int the dental hygiene program at cypress college, Do you have to work on cadavers?
Cadavers? No, I wouldn't think so. The dental hygienist program in my local area works on live humans. They run a dental clinic, and the students get some of their clinical experience through that. Other clinical experience is through local dental clinics. After looking Cypress' website regarding the program, you may have to OBSERVE anatomy of a cadaver, but i would doubt dissection. Call the school to know for sure. The link is to Cypress college dental hygiene program. Good luck!
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Monday, May 17, 2010
For dentists only: questions about dental practice?
1. how many workers do you employ? what jobs?
2. how many hygenist appointments do you usually have every day?
3. how much money did you borrow to open the practice?
4. what is your take home salary after taxes?
For dentists only: questions about dental practice?
Don't look likeyou have any answers good qyestions
Reply:I could easily answer #1 and #2, but I won't since you only asked dentists.
Questions #3 and #4 are a bit invasive and I'd be surprised if anyone was comfortable answering them in a public forum.
Reply:1. Three full time, 1 part time
assistant, office manager, hygenist, part time hygenist
2. 10 with the appointment being 45 min
3. no answer
4. I'll never tell
Reply:1. I have 2 chairside assistants, 2 "front office people" and 1 hygienist.
2. The hygienist usually sees 10 people a day. Maybe more if there are a lot of children on the schedule that day.
3. I didn't borrow anything to open the practice, as I just joined an existing practice.
4. These figures are available from the ADA or even Monster.com. There is no point in getting a half dozen dentists to reveal their income to you as it would have zero statistical significance.
2. how many hygenist appointments do you usually have every day?
3. how much money did you borrow to open the practice?
4. what is your take home salary after taxes?
For dentists only: questions about dental practice?
Don't look likeyou have any answers good qyestions
Reply:I could easily answer #1 and #2, but I won't since you only asked dentists.
Questions #3 and #4 are a bit invasive and I'd be surprised if anyone was comfortable answering them in a public forum.
Reply:1. Three full time, 1 part time
assistant, office manager, hygenist, part time hygenist
2. 10 with the appointment being 45 min
3. no answer
4. I'll never tell
Reply:1. I have 2 chairside assistants, 2 "front office people" and 1 hygienist.
2. The hygienist usually sees 10 people a day. Maybe more if there are a lot of children on the schedule that day.
3. I didn't borrow anything to open the practice, as I just joined an existing practice.
4. These figures are available from the ADA or even Monster.com. There is no point in getting a half dozen dentists to reveal their income to you as it would have zero statistical significance.
Have you ever heard of someone getting sick after a deep dental cleaning?
My dentist had one of the hygenist do a deep cleaning on all four quadrants of my mouth because I hadn't been in a long time and needed it. He said he wanted her to put an anti biotics cream in there afterwards because he did see signs of gum disease and I had sever bleeding. The hygenist did the cleaning but did not give me the anti biotic, she said she wanted me to come back in 2 weeks and she would do it then. Well, in 2 weeks I was sick and had to cancel my appt and reschedule it. I have a sore throat, sinuses are all backed up, my face hurts, my mouth hurts. I went to the ER and they said I have a viral infection. I didn't think about the fact that my teeth hurt and my face hurts around my mouth until this morning. A friend suggested that maybe I am sick cause infection was released from the deep cleaning and I wasn't given the anti biotic.
Have you ever heard of someone getting sick after a deep dental cleaning?
I do not intend to have you worried...but your health (maybe life) could be in danger.
The dental procedure can cause a sever infection of your blood by "Streptococcus" and be fatal eg. lead to Endocarditis.
A high dose of "Amoxicillin" would be urgent!
Pls. be careful!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amoxicillin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streptococc...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endocarditi...
Reply:all the bacteria that they clean out from underneanth the gums can definatly get you sick with flu like symptoms. i am surprised you werent given the antibiotic first... Ps im also surprised she did all four quadrants at one time?
Reply:Not knowing your age or general health condition let me just say that given the circumstances as you described them it makes no sense what so ever that the Dentist allowed you to leave the office with out an antibiotic prescription. It's a well know fact in the health fields that any dental procedure that causes bleeding and an area of infection exists, standard procedure requires the patient to be give antibiotics...if the infection is know to exist ahead of time, antibiotics are given at least one week prior to the procedure being done. There are people in cemetery's because of such ill practices. When a person has a known or unknown serious health condition, that condition can be made fatal by release of infectious material being released directly into the blood stream through invasive dental procedures. It may be only a coincidence that you got sick following the dental procedure but failing to give you preventative medication for the infection they said you had certainly didn't help. You might consider changing who provides your dental health.
Reply:The antibiotics that the dentist would be placing is not for the purpose of preventing systemic infection, but rather for the purpose of slowing continued destruction of the periodontal tissues due to chronic periodontitis. Your viral infection is unrelated. Also the bacteria which cause periodontitis are susceptible to antibiotics, BUT they are not viruses. By definition, viruses are not affected by antibiotics.
I think the issue that the previous answerers are referring to is infective endocarditis. This could be a problem if you had a prosthetic heart valve, artificial joint, etc, ....in that case an antibiotic would be given to prevent infection, but that is a completely different scenario.
Sometimes a dentist will refer to periodontitis as "an infection". "Infection" may describe the disease process to aid the patient's understanding, but technically, an infection means that it is spreading to other parts of the body...that does not happen in same sense with periodontitis.
Reply:I had a root canal done on an abscessed tooth without being given antibiotics before or after. One week later I was sick with a fever, chills, and fainted at work. Ambulance ride to the hospital where I was diagnosed with bacteremia (bacteria in bloodstream) and a VERY serious eye infection. I was on IV antibiotics for 6 weeks and had 5 injections to my right eye to treat the infection and prevent blindness or complete loss of the eye. A heart doctor, an infectious disease specialist, four eye specialists, and a surgeon to put in the IV tube. That root canal ended up costing over $40,000 dollars....and almost cost me my life. You may have a viral infection (?) BUT..If you're still sick.....SEE A DOCTOR NOW!
Good Luck %26amp; Best Wishes
Have you ever heard of someone getting sick after a deep dental cleaning?
I do not intend to have you worried...but your health (maybe life) could be in danger.
The dental procedure can cause a sever infection of your blood by "Streptococcus" and be fatal eg. lead to Endocarditis.
A high dose of "Amoxicillin" would be urgent!
Pls. be careful!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amoxicillin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streptococc...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endocarditi...
Reply:all the bacteria that they clean out from underneanth the gums can definatly get you sick with flu like symptoms. i am surprised you werent given the antibiotic first... Ps im also surprised she did all four quadrants at one time?
Reply:Not knowing your age or general health condition let me just say that given the circumstances as you described them it makes no sense what so ever that the Dentist allowed you to leave the office with out an antibiotic prescription. It's a well know fact in the health fields that any dental procedure that causes bleeding and an area of infection exists, standard procedure requires the patient to be give antibiotics...if the infection is know to exist ahead of time, antibiotics are given at least one week prior to the procedure being done. There are people in cemetery's because of such ill practices. When a person has a known or unknown serious health condition, that condition can be made fatal by release of infectious material being released directly into the blood stream through invasive dental procedures. It may be only a coincidence that you got sick following the dental procedure but failing to give you preventative medication for the infection they said you had certainly didn't help. You might consider changing who provides your dental health.
Reply:The antibiotics that the dentist would be placing is not for the purpose of preventing systemic infection, but rather for the purpose of slowing continued destruction of the periodontal tissues due to chronic periodontitis. Your viral infection is unrelated. Also the bacteria which cause periodontitis are susceptible to antibiotics, BUT they are not viruses. By definition, viruses are not affected by antibiotics.
I think the issue that the previous answerers are referring to is infective endocarditis. This could be a problem if you had a prosthetic heart valve, artificial joint, etc, ....in that case an antibiotic would be given to prevent infection, but that is a completely different scenario.
Sometimes a dentist will refer to periodontitis as "an infection". "Infection" may describe the disease process to aid the patient's understanding, but technically, an infection means that it is spreading to other parts of the body...that does not happen in same sense with periodontitis.
Reply:I had a root canal done on an abscessed tooth without being given antibiotics before or after. One week later I was sick with a fever, chills, and fainted at work. Ambulance ride to the hospital where I was diagnosed with bacteremia (bacteria in bloodstream) and a VERY serious eye infection. I was on IV antibiotics for 6 weeks and had 5 injections to my right eye to treat the infection and prevent blindness or complete loss of the eye. A heart doctor, an infectious disease specialist, four eye specialists, and a surgeon to put in the IV tube. That root canal ended up costing over $40,000 dollars....and almost cost me my life. You may have a viral infection (?) BUT..If you're still sick.....SEE A DOCTOR NOW!
Good Luck %26amp; Best Wishes
Nunbing for dental procedure?
But I WAS numb but obviously not numb enough which should not have been the case as my body mass index is obvious.On my return to complete the crown I yelled at the receptionist "take my name off your data base and don't contact me again. She's a bloody idiot". on going to a new dentist i find my teth are covered with plack as the previous hygenist hand scaled mostly.
Nunbing for dental procedure?
First, it's clear that you have no idea what you are talking about. Second, if it hurts, TELL THE DENTIST.
Lastly, as #2 stated, I'm sure they were more than happy to let you go as a patient. As a matter of fact, I can guarantee that you're on their DO NOT REAPPOINT list.
Reply:Don't worry..I told the dentist ..in no uncertain terms! I do know what I am talking about but obviously the dentist doesn't know good practise from bad.Thanks for the answers even from the funny lady who inferred I was an addict.Shame on you. Report It
Reply:... and your question????
Reply:So, yelling at a receptionist is your idea of being cool? Wow, what an impressive man!
What, if any, responsibility do you share for not telling your dentist you could feel the procedure?
In many cases, people who are substance abusers are difficult to numb. Some people lie on their health history about using drugs and the dental team doesn't have the information necessary to plan anesthetic.
The practice will not be sorry to see you go. People who yell at innocent staff members are not welcome where I work, and would not be welcome in most offices. Perhaps some anger management would be in order?
Reply:numbing has nothing to do w/ BMI, bud.
I've had guys built like linebackers who are huge and need only a tiny amount of anesthetic.
I've had little kids who need 2 full carpules.
Same goes w/ nitrous oxide. it's not a correlation.
unless your prev hygienist scaled immed before the SECOND hygienist saw the plaque on your teeth, the existing plaque on your teeth is your fault.
If you're talking about tartar or calculus however, yest, they should ahve taken it off at a recent cleaning.
Reply:HI,
I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HELP YOU, BUT I AM CONFUSED. I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE ASKING. PLEASE ASK YOUR QUESTION AGAIN SO I CAN HELP. I DO KNOW ALOT ABOUT NUMBING FOR DENTAL PROCEDURES AND TEETH CLEANINGS. THANKS. ASK AGAIN.
Nunbing for dental procedure?
First, it's clear that you have no idea what you are talking about. Second, if it hurts, TELL THE DENTIST.
Lastly, as #2 stated, I'm sure they were more than happy to let you go as a patient. As a matter of fact, I can guarantee that you're on their DO NOT REAPPOINT list.
Reply:Don't worry..I told the dentist ..in no uncertain terms! I do know what I am talking about but obviously the dentist doesn't know good practise from bad.Thanks for the answers even from the funny lady who inferred I was an addict.Shame on you. Report It
Reply:... and your question????
Reply:So, yelling at a receptionist is your idea of being cool? Wow, what an impressive man!
What, if any, responsibility do you share for not telling your dentist you could feel the procedure?
In many cases, people who are substance abusers are difficult to numb. Some people lie on their health history about using drugs and the dental team doesn't have the information necessary to plan anesthetic.
The practice will not be sorry to see you go. People who yell at innocent staff members are not welcome where I work, and would not be welcome in most offices. Perhaps some anger management would be in order?
Reply:numbing has nothing to do w/ BMI, bud.
I've had guys built like linebackers who are huge and need only a tiny amount of anesthetic.
I've had little kids who need 2 full carpules.
Same goes w/ nitrous oxide. it's not a correlation.
unless your prev hygienist scaled immed before the SECOND hygienist saw the plaque on your teeth, the existing plaque on your teeth is your fault.
If you're talking about tartar or calculus however, yest, they should ahve taken it off at a recent cleaning.
Reply:HI,
I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HELP YOU, BUT I AM CONFUSED. I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE ASKING. PLEASE ASK YOUR QUESTION AGAIN SO I CAN HELP. I DO KNOW ALOT ABOUT NUMBING FOR DENTAL PROCEDURES AND TEETH CLEANINGS. THANKS. ASK AGAIN.
Post dental cleaning thing.. gap?
I went and got my teeth cleaned and found that when my hygenist removed the plaque buildup behind my lower front teeth, I have this gap type thing where it used to be. It doesn't hurt me and my gums aren't bleeding, and my teeth aren't sensitive to hot/cold or any foods I'm eating, but I'm curious as to if there's anything I can do to relieve this temporarily or if something happens within time, like the gums grow into the gap and fill it like they normally do. It's not a huge gap, it's just where one of my teeth goes behind another one of my teeth from how they're crookedly set. Thanks in advance. :)
Post dental cleaning thing.. gap?
the tarter had filled up the gaps in between the tooth. The gum has been destroyed by the tarter. Once it is removed , gaps form, see to that the gap is maintained %26amp; do not allow food to collect again or the next time after claening more gaps will form.
Reply:if gum tissue was removed during the cleaning then most likely it will grow back. you can always go back to the dentist and ask them since on your x rays it will show where the gum was previously. you can give about a week or so to see the gum growing back
Reply:you are just not use to it it will go away
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Post dental cleaning thing.. gap?
the tarter had filled up the gaps in between the tooth. The gum has been destroyed by the tarter. Once it is removed , gaps form, see to that the gap is maintained %26amp; do not allow food to collect again or the next time after claening more gaps will form.
Reply:if gum tissue was removed during the cleaning then most likely it will grow back. you can always go back to the dentist and ask them since on your x rays it will show where the gum was previously. you can give about a week or so to see the gum growing back
Reply:you are just not use to it it will go away
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Do dental hygenists give shots??
I wanna be a hygenist, but not if they give shots!
Do dental hygenists give shots??
Here in New York State where I am, dental hygienists can be certified to give infiltration injections and administer nitrous oxide, which they routinely do when doing scaling and root planing (deep cleanings).
I don't know about other states, but I would imagine most states are also the same.
Reply:I think the dentists have to give the shots all the dentists I have been to the dentist gives the shot and all the hygenists does is prep the patient (clean your teeth and stuff like that)
Reply:I have NOT heard this...i bet under the supervision of a dentist maybe...but ask????
Reply:I've never had one from a dental hygienist. Why not ask your dentist for a job description?
Reply:my uncle is one. he does give shots. they are small one that you shoot straight into the gums around the teeth/tooth that they need to clean or put a filling into
Reply:In most states, dental hygienists can give routine injections. My hygienist is actually better at it than the doctor.
Reply:Yes, in many states now hygienists are trained and licensed to give dental injections. Hygienists many times will give an injection for deeper cleanings called root planing and scaling. I do not know that it is mandatory for a hygienist to take the course. They probably offer it as part of their curriculumn now in dental hygiene school. In the past four years, WI has become one of those states.
Reply:Dental hygienists provide preventive and corrective dental care and promote good oral hygiene and health. A typical day involves examining patients teeth and gums for disease and cavities, cleaning and polishing teeth and helping patients understand brushing and flossing techniques.
To be a dental hygienist, you must be comfortable around needles, x-ray machines and anesthetics.
In most dental offices, the dentist gives shots for filling a cavity anyway. Not to worry, though, if you do in fact have to give shots or anesthetics, be calm. You'll be doing it almost every day, so you'll definitely get used to it.
Best of luck with your career choice!
Reply:The laws governing what a hygienist can do varies from state to state. I am currently licensed in WA state and I am able to provide local anesthetic to my patients. I can give nerve blocks too, not just infiltrate. I can administer nitrous oxide, and I can place fillings (amalgam%26lt;which is the silver colored ones%26gt;and composite%26lt;tooth colored %26gt;). On the other hand I am also licensed in the state of Georgia and I am not allowed to do any of that! I would maybe start by talking to your dental hygienist and find out from her/him what the scope of practice is for your state. Who knows, maybe giving injections isn't something you'd have to do anyways! Even if you do, you'll get instruction and when you have the knowledge on how to do it, you'll be confident to do it! Dental hygiene is a great career. Best of luck to you!
Do dental hygenists give shots??
Here in New York State where I am, dental hygienists can be certified to give infiltration injections and administer nitrous oxide, which they routinely do when doing scaling and root planing (deep cleanings).
I don't know about other states, but I would imagine most states are also the same.
Reply:I think the dentists have to give the shots all the dentists I have been to the dentist gives the shot and all the hygenists does is prep the patient (clean your teeth and stuff like that)
Reply:I have NOT heard this...i bet under the supervision of a dentist maybe...but ask????
Reply:I've never had one from a dental hygienist. Why not ask your dentist for a job description?
Reply:my uncle is one. he does give shots. they are small one that you shoot straight into the gums around the teeth/tooth that they need to clean or put a filling into
Reply:In most states, dental hygienists can give routine injections. My hygienist is actually better at it than the doctor.
Reply:Yes, in many states now hygienists are trained and licensed to give dental injections. Hygienists many times will give an injection for deeper cleanings called root planing and scaling. I do not know that it is mandatory for a hygienist to take the course. They probably offer it as part of their curriculumn now in dental hygiene school. In the past four years, WI has become one of those states.
Reply:Dental hygienists provide preventive and corrective dental care and promote good oral hygiene and health. A typical day involves examining patients teeth and gums for disease and cavities, cleaning and polishing teeth and helping patients understand brushing and flossing techniques.
To be a dental hygienist, you must be comfortable around needles, x-ray machines and anesthetics.
In most dental offices, the dentist gives shots for filling a cavity anyway. Not to worry, though, if you do in fact have to give shots or anesthetics, be calm. You'll be doing it almost every day, so you'll definitely get used to it.
Best of luck with your career choice!
Reply:The laws governing what a hygienist can do varies from state to state. I am currently licensed in WA state and I am able to provide local anesthetic to my patients. I can give nerve blocks too, not just infiltrate. I can administer nitrous oxide, and I can place fillings (amalgam%26lt;which is the silver colored ones%26gt;and composite%26lt;tooth colored %26gt;). On the other hand I am also licensed in the state of Georgia and I am not allowed to do any of that! I would maybe start by talking to your dental hygienist and find out from her/him what the scope of practice is for your state. Who knows, maybe giving injections isn't something you'd have to do anyways! Even if you do, you'll get instruction and when you have the knowledge on how to do it, you'll be confident to do it! Dental hygiene is a great career. Best of luck to you!
Dental fees to be paid up front normal?
I have always seen either my grandfater (dentist) or the dentist my mother has worked for (she's a hygenist), but now I live far enough away that I have to find my own dentist.
So after much procrastinating, and now with some pain I go see a dentist. My 22 year old fillings are failing and I need a couple of crowns. I don't have any issue with the diagnosis.
BUT, the office manager tried to extract payment for the self pay portion at the time we were making the appointment for the procedure. Is this normal?
I have good insurance that is covering over 2/3 of the cost. I have no problem with paying at least a portion of my share at the time the prep work and temporaries are put in (2 weeks from now). But why should I pay in full up front when it will be at least a month before the work is complete? And what redress would I have if there was some problem with the work done and I had already paid in full? Advice?
Dental fees to be paid up front normal?
While there is no reason a dental office should grant you credit ("just send me a bill after my insurance pays"), neither should YOU grant THEM credit ("pay us before we do the work.")
Obtain a good-faith estimate of your non-insured charges and pay that as each procedure is completed. Any difference (to your benefit, or the dentist's) should be paid immediately after insurance pays.
I am an office manager in a dental practice. It is our policy to collect an *estimated* patient portion at time of service. If I over collect, payment is refunded within two business days of insurance payment. I expect the same if the patient owes us.
Reply:Find another dentist. You shouldn't have to pay for services that have yet been rendered.
Reply:yup this is common now that dental insurance is rare and doesn't cover much anyway. A lot of times they won't ask for payment up front if you are a long time patient but mostly now they do. As for recourse, you can always call the state board.
Reply:I have to pay my portion that the insurance doe snot cover up front. This was for a crown. And it was quite a bit of money. the dentist said that he has to pay the other guy who makes the crown for him that will go on your teeth.
Reply:It is customary to pay for a procedure at the time it was completed. Trying to get you to pay in full way in advance for a procedure sounds a bit overboard.
Personally I would be uncomfortable doing that. I would look for another dentist, or go to the dental school in the area if there is one (where money is not a motivating factor).
Reply:Full payment of your share should not be due until the work is complete.
Reply:I would find another dentist. There are a lot out there that will confirm your insurance coverage and charge you only the difference. I feel violated when I see a denist that has a used car salesmen as an office manager.
Reply:unfortunately this is standard procedure these days with all medical providers.when i was suspected of having (and later diagnosed ) with cancer, the primary specialist wanted money up front. tell them what you can pay and ask for a payment plan. be honest. they may accept it,maybe not. there are many ways of addressing problems if they happen afterwards, sometimes thru state licensing agencies. maybe call a referal service to find the best provider for your need.
Reply:i give a small discount for pre-payment. it ensures that people don't "forget their check book". as dentists, we've been burned too many times and prepayment is our way to prevent scammers.
So after much procrastinating, and now with some pain I go see a dentist. My 22 year old fillings are failing and I need a couple of crowns. I don't have any issue with the diagnosis.
BUT, the office manager tried to extract payment for the self pay portion at the time we were making the appointment for the procedure. Is this normal?
I have good insurance that is covering over 2/3 of the cost. I have no problem with paying at least a portion of my share at the time the prep work and temporaries are put in (2 weeks from now). But why should I pay in full up front when it will be at least a month before the work is complete? And what redress would I have if there was some problem with the work done and I had already paid in full? Advice?
Dental fees to be paid up front normal?
While there is no reason a dental office should grant you credit ("just send me a bill after my insurance pays"), neither should YOU grant THEM credit ("pay us before we do the work.")
Obtain a good-faith estimate of your non-insured charges and pay that as each procedure is completed. Any difference (to your benefit, or the dentist's) should be paid immediately after insurance pays.
I am an office manager in a dental practice. It is our policy to collect an *estimated* patient portion at time of service. If I over collect, payment is refunded within two business days of insurance payment. I expect the same if the patient owes us.
Reply:Find another dentist. You shouldn't have to pay for services that have yet been rendered.
Reply:yup this is common now that dental insurance is rare and doesn't cover much anyway. A lot of times they won't ask for payment up front if you are a long time patient but mostly now they do. As for recourse, you can always call the state board.
Reply:I have to pay my portion that the insurance doe snot cover up front. This was for a crown. And it was quite a bit of money. the dentist said that he has to pay the other guy who makes the crown for him that will go on your teeth.
Reply:It is customary to pay for a procedure at the time it was completed. Trying to get you to pay in full way in advance for a procedure sounds a bit overboard.
Personally I would be uncomfortable doing that. I would look for another dentist, or go to the dental school in the area if there is one (where money is not a motivating factor).
Reply:Full payment of your share should not be due until the work is complete.
Reply:I would find another dentist. There are a lot out there that will confirm your insurance coverage and charge you only the difference. I feel violated when I see a denist that has a used car salesmen as an office manager.
Reply:unfortunately this is standard procedure these days with all medical providers.when i was suspected of having (and later diagnosed ) with cancer, the primary specialist wanted money up front. tell them what you can pay and ask for a payment plan. be honest. they may accept it,maybe not. there are many ways of addressing problems if they happen afterwards, sometimes thru state licensing agencies. maybe call a referal service to find the best provider for your need.
Reply:i give a small discount for pre-payment. it ensures that people don't "forget their check book". as dentists, we've been burned too many times and prepayment is our way to prevent scammers.
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